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An Inside Threat To The Hunting Community

The mission and ethos of the Okayest Hunter podcast, brand, and their network of podcasts is to put an end to deer shaming and deflate the highfalutin egos that cloud the true essence of hunting—Okayest Hunter, is all about embracing the misses, the “almost had its,” and the “wait ’til next years.” Failure is our best teacher. The mission? To foster a hunting community where tales of near-success are toasted just as heartily as filled tags, because let’s face it, for every shooter buck majestically adorning a basement wall, there’s a handful of stories filled with blunders, bloopers, and outright mishaps that are equally worth celebrating.

As you scroll through your favorite social media platform(s), there’s a good chance you’ve seen some form of deer shaming or hunter-bashing. Comments like, “You should have passed,” “Maybe you should shoot does,” or, “I know it’s not the biggest buck, but…” are all too common. 

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Ego is not the same as confidence. Confidence is defined as evidence of our strengths and abilities. Ego is not something earned. It’s a kind of unhealthy belief of our own importance. It’s that devil on your shoulder whispering that we’re better than other people, that our needs matter more. Too much ego creates a sense that we need success, like killing a giant buck or, worse, the recognition of it rather than the intrinsic value of being afield and harvesting your own meat. It’s the belief everyone is watching us; as a result, we must be the greatest, having harvested such a tough-to-hunt animal. 

Freud explained ego with an analogy—our ego was the rider on a horse, with our unconscious drives representing the animal while the ego tried to direct them. On the other hand, modern psychologists use the word “egotist,” which refers to a pathological focus on one’s self and disregard for anyone else. This seems like a possible place to arrive, especially since bow hunting is more of a singular pursuit. 

The more common form of ego I’m relating to deer hunting is the one that demands we ought to get our way. The desire to be better than, more than, or recognized for far past any practical reasons—that is the ego I believe to be threatening the hunting community from within. 

Picturesque Instagram grip and grins have eroded the Fred Bear version of hunting and have created an egotistical beast over several years. This ego issue has generated a sense of superiority and certainty, exceeding the horizon of the confidence and joy that goes into hunting whitetails. Football coach Bill Walsh said, “Self-confidence becomes arrogance, assertiveness becomes obstinacy, and self-assurance becomes reckless abandon.” Let’s not recklessly abandon what we truly love about hunting because we “need” a grip and grin with a 150” whitetail for social media to prove to others we don’t even know that we’ve earned it. Of course, we’ve earned it. The reward is in the pursuit and experience itself.

We all have an ego, though. It’s not all bad. We’ve all been guilty of having too much of it at one time or another. Hell, if anything will lend itself too much ego, it’s killing a mature whitetail in its domain.  

The thing about ego is that (in my opinion) it is a much less effective means and strategy to make a community stronger than humility and confidence are. 

The Good Ol’ Days of Deer Hunting

Things were very different back in the day when deer hunters had to physically stop at a local registration station to register their deer. Or were they? 

Of course, in person, things indeed were different. It was congratulated when someone pulled up with a spike buck on their tailgate, just as the 180″ monster whitetail was. I’m willing to bet there was judgment, though. It just was never said out loud (“Look at that little spike,” or “It must be nice to have land to kill a 180””). That’s where social media complicates things. No one would go out of their way to put another hunter down in person. Unfortunately, plenty of keyboard cowboys are waiting at the drop of a hat to give their $0.02 on why a hunter should or should not have tagged their deer. 

I’ve adopted the phrase, “My tag, my hunt.” It has become a brand staple for the Okayest Hunter. It should not be judged whether you’re tagging a brute, dink buck, or doe. Of course, if someone is willing to buy my tags, I’ll consider letting them have a say in what I tag, so long as it’s legal and ethical. 

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How did we get here? We’re so far from what Fred Bear, the father of bowhunting, said: “Immersing yourself in the outdoor experience and respecting the wildlife you hunt.”

Maybe I’ve been too deep into learning about stoic philosophy and human nature from the likes of Marcus Aurelius, Ryan Holiday, and Robert Greene 🤷‍♂️.  

Let’s revisit Fred Bear’s full quote. He said, “Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forest and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.” 

The issue is that even though most hunters echo and cheer this sentiment, many still do the exact opposite. They go on defense by saying it wasn’t the biggest buck, but… Conversely, others are telling hunters how they should use their tag and making people feel ashamed of what they’ve so proudly harvested. 

Every deer hunter is at a different stage in their hunting journey, and that’s okay. Remember from Hunter’s Education that as a hunter gains experience and skill, they’ll typically traverse through five stages of development. However, not everyone passes through all these stages, nor do they necessarily do it in the same order. 

The Five Stages Of Hunter Development Are:

  • Shooting Stage
  • Limiting-Out Stage 
  • Trophy Stage 
  • Method Stage 
  • Sportsman Stage 

So when someone condescendingly says something like, that’s the kind of buck a 14-year-old would shoot, what do you think the 14-year-old scrolling through social media will think? It’s degrading, and now we have young hunters not shooting deer. That’s because they’re holding out for the trophy buck they’ve seen on TV or YouTube or they’re afraid of ridicule, and sadly, rightfully so. 

If I were to point to a single thing that’s causing this, I’d say ego is to blame. When I sat down with Michael Waddell from the Bone Collector, he said, “Hunting doesn’t make you badass. It’s badass that you get to hunt.” He’s spot on. 

When a person experiences success, a few things happen. I attempt to apply these laws of human nature to deer hunting. 

1. Entitlement 

When you experience success, there’s a sense of entitlement that comes along with it. Once you experience said success, you feel like you’re entitled to it. It’s one of the reasons human beings don’t like going backward. Think about it. Once you tag a 6-pointer, you might only want to tag an 8-pointer, or once you’ve tagged an 8-pointer, maybe only a 10-pointer is acceptable, and so forth. It may be the case that someone who has successfully harvested mature bucks is now entitled to them. 

2. Paranoia 

From there, paranoia can set in. Now that you’re tagging mature whitetails, you’re paranoid that someone filling their freezer with tomorrow’s buck today is limiting your opportunity at those same bucks as they would have aged up into a big buck. 

Any mature buck hunter consistently killing mature bucks every year doesn’t care about what others are doing with their tags. They’re not worried that someone hunting a spike buck is hunting in the same league as them, nor in the same way or territory. 

Other things worth considering are healthy deer management, not just Quality Deer Management. As Doug Durren has stated on the Okayest Hunter podcast, you ought to take the whole herd into account along with various circumstances within different regions. CWD is a good example. Young bucks are spreading CWD far more than mature ones – I’m sure the “young bucks” can relate as we reflect on our time in our early twenties. Younger male deer are breeding more than mature bucks. Whereas the older ones are far more prone to contracting CWD. 

3. Control 

According to Robert Greene in the Laws of Human Nature, an appetite for control comes with success. Who are the hunters telling other hunters how to use their tags? This one doesn’t fit my attempt to apply these laws because several hunters telling others how to hunt have not had much success. In life, plenty of people in the stands tell the folks on the field how to play the game. I’d like to see a 40-something-year-old with a beer belly run the ball to the endzone. 

More importantly, the folks tossing out such negative comments have no idea what that hunter’s life is like. Maybe that grip and grin they were so proud to post was their first deer as a bow hunter, adult-onset hunter, their last hunt with grandpa, or their first out-of-state hunt. It could have been their first hunt with their child. You just don’t know. 

If you want guidance on handling some of these hostile social media comments, check out the Wired to Hunt podcast the Okayest Hunter crew got to do with Mark Kenyon. We listed out ten (well, actually eleven) Okayest Hunter commandments. Most of it is just about being kind and not going out of your way to put others down. 

Most of this negative egotism comprises only 1% of the overall hunting community. That 1% is just really loud. Unfortunately, negativity is inherently louder than positivity, much like how the news reports on 1% of the bad in the world. Therefore, it’s our job to make the positivity in hunting louder! When I was in college, I worked for a call center. Out of the thousands of calls I took during my time there, I only remember one call made by a customer to say thank you. One positive call.

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When we see hunt shaming going on, let’s make sure we say what should have been said; “Congratulations!” 

Remember to have fun; it’s deer hunting. Recall what it was like when you started out when every hunt and opportunity on a deer made you feel like a kid on Christmas. Bring that spirit to the woods with you this hunting season and every season after that.

Check out Editor-in-Chief John Radzwilla’s appearance on the Okayest Hunter podcast!

Editor’s Note: For more from author Eric Clark and to check out the Okayest Hunter podcast, please visit okayesthunter.com.

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